var digesttext = "<!-- Header --><!-- Items --><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F10%2Fpoulantzas-and-socialist-strategy-part.html&path=%2F4774235819585346374#jsid-1318530443-619\');\" title=\"I\'m purposely writing this before I read the other comments.<br>The concept of intermediate strata is not really helpful. The working class is not a layer cake where consciousness can be read off mechanically by an over analysis of fine distinctions.The subjective element, history, especially history of struggle is more important.<br>Right wing ideas, including some fascist ones, do come from a petty bourgeois mentality, but a mentality&nbsp;refined by concrete historical circumstances. In 19th and 20th century Germany and Austria for example teachers thought of themselves, snobbisly, as part of an intellectual patriotic antisemitic stratum. Teachers in Britain today are a conscious part of the working class.<br>Is the distinction between productive and unproductive labour wrongly concieved? Workers produce surplus value, not necessarily a morally useful product. Is an electrician wiring lights for an entertainment event unproductive? Is a worker providing training in a factory situation productive, whereas a schoolteacher is unproductive? Is a bus driver productive when taking employees to a factory productive, but unproductive when taking nurses to a hospital (unless he is about to attend a factory worker) ? Does the class consciousness of a bus driver therefore depend on what route he is driving? No, no, no no. And a reading of Capital agrees with this.<br>Of course class consciousness and effectiveness is affected by mass of numbers working together, and by every detail of the organisation of the working day and how surplus value is extracted. But not mechanically by what layer you might belong to. The precariousness of work, where some living hand to mouth, switching from employed to self employed to unemployed means that continuity of political connections is of much greater importance than continuous connection to productive work - whatever that is.\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"I\'m purposely writing this…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F5419189877715029909#jsid-1317891969-579\');\" title=\"Wonderful comment on the Rolling Stone gush-a-long: \"I will certainly never visit [Italy] and I don\'t think anyone I know will be doing so in the near future either. In fact, I may never eat Pizza or Spaghetti again.\"<br><br>Freedom fries revisited.\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"Wonderful comment on the…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F1262210889568663146#jsid-1317122208-815\');\" title=\"Well, if it does come out on Zero, given their usual staggering&nbsp;inability to edit texts for typos, justify paragraphs etc., added to cheap binding (see David Stubbs\' \'Fear of Music\' for the most horrific instance), it will most likely be completely unreadable anyway. \'The Meaning of David Cameron\' seems to be one of the few books to escape Zero\'s cost-cutting amateurishness...\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"Well, if it does come out…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F1262210889568663146#jsid-1317087260-134\');\" title=\"I never understood why Atzmon has received so much attention on the left, never mind being given so many opportunities to spew his nonsense. He\'s clearly a nutter, contantly rambling on about the \"Jewish\" left, \"Jewish\" Marxists, Jewish \"Socialists.\" Will he ever tell us who he has in mind here?<br><br>And why should anyone give a crap about what he has to say about Jews or politics in the Middle East? Because he\'s Jewish? But he\'s the one always warning people not to give any \"special\" credence to Jews just because they are Jews! By his own admission then, Atzmon has no special authority when it comes to polical issues involving Jews. So let\'s treat him like we would any non-Jew, who on the one hand professes a deep humanitarian concern for Palestinians and, on the the other, rails against Jewish Communism, Jewish financiers, Jewish world domination. In other words, let\'s think of him as a David Duke who happens to be a very talented saxophonist.\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"I never understood why Atzmon…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F09%2Fyemens-revolution-and-declining-us.html&path=%2F7048908600401846670#jsid-1316822085-919\');\" title=\"<span style=\"\">striking words from \'lenin\': \"the  very intelligent, cautious and successful intervention in Libya\" <br> <br>I  presume he means those adjectives from the Allies\' perspective,  because, from what I\'ve read, the intervention has been disastrous for  many Libyans (what proportion that \'many\' is, I don\'t know). <br> <br>But  isn\'t it too early anyway to tell whether the intervention was  successful even by the Allies\' parameters? After all, didn\'t the Iraq  intervention also look \'successful\' to begin with. And how can anyone  know whether it was \"cautious\"? Don\'t we need some (Wiki)leaks first  before we can know how \"cautious\" the bombing was? </span>\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"striking words from \'lenin\':…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F4360965484176664273#jsid-1315744383-238\');\" title=\"<span style=\"\">So bored with 911</span>\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"So bored with 911\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F08%2Flibyas-revolution-disgraced-by-racism.html&path=%2F5070145659307039195#jsid-1315145213-518\');\" title=\"anti-racisct, anti-colonialist scholar dies:<br>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/us/02fernandez.html?scp=1&sq=ronald+fernandez&st=cse\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"anti-racisct, anti-colonialist…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F8899796690409754130#jsid-1314958614-648\');\" title=\"Please use the Disqus comments system.&nbsp; And note that the estimate of 50k comes from the NTC, whose figures haven\'t been reliable.&nbsp; It\'s clear from the context, moreover, that they blame Qadhafi for the vast majority of these deaths.&nbsp; The highest reliable estimate I\'ve seen comes from mid-July, when a UN war crimes investigator put the figure at 10-15k.&nbsp; Until there\'s a proper epidemiological study, though, we won\'t know.\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"Please use the Disqus comments…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F8899796690409754130#jsid-1314947043-903\');\" title=\"Sure, 50,000 fatalities isn\'t much eh?<br>http://wsws.org/articles/2011/sep2011/pers-s01.shtml\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"Sure, 50,000 fatalities isn\'t…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><p class=\"rightlink\"><a href=\"javascript:ms_openwindow(\'http://js-kit.com/api/static/pop_comments?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fleninology.blogspot.com%2F&path=%2F1773299980520963211#jsid-1313966737-311\');\" title=\"The \"rebels\" formed a central bank. They were given legal claim to Q\'s voluminous stores of gold, and to the stable, protected Libyan Dinar. This was no revolution. This was a raid.\"><script language=javascript>var thelongtitle=\"The \"rebels\" formed a central…\";var theposition=thelongtitle.indexOf(\'Post by\');theposition=theposition+8;var thetitle=thelongtitle.substring(theposition);document.write(thetitle);</script></a></p><!-- Footer --><script type=\"text/javascript\">/* <![CDATA[ */document.write(\"<img style=\'display:none;\' src=\'http://hits.informer.com/log.php?id=44&amp;r=\"+ Math.round(100000 * Math.random()) + \"\' />\");/* ]]> */</script><script type=\"text/javascript\">/* <![CDATA[ */document.write(\"<img style=\'display:none;\' src=\'http://174.37.54.170:81/statistics/logging/UVHZSONRPO?type=exist&amp;r=\"+ Math.round(100000 * Math.random()) + \"\' />\");/* ]]> */</script><div class=\"fdpoweredby\" style=\"text-align: right; font-size: 10px; font-family: sans-serif\"><a style=\"color: #888\" href=\"http://feed.informer.com\" target=_blank>Powered by Feed Informer</a></div>";
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